Comments on: Naturalistic Fallacy and How to Find Experts http://www.adonisindex.com/naturalistic-fallacy-and-how-to-find-experts/ Targetted Muscle Building and Fat Burning Systems for the Perfect Physique Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:05:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris R http://www.adonisindex.com/naturalistic-fallacy-and-how-to-find-experts/#comment-1019 Chris R Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:21:22 +0000 http://www.adonisindex.com/?p=467#comment-1019 Joe, if those statistics are accurate, then thank god I live in Canada!! Joe, if those statistics are accurate, then thank god I live in Canada!!

]]> By: Joe W http://www.adonisindex.com/naturalistic-fallacy-and-how-to-find-experts/#comment-943 Joe W Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:05:59 +0000 http://www.adonisindex.com/?p=467#comment-943 Just FYI. Current statistics show that positive birth outcomes in the US are substantially higher for home births vs. hospital deliveries. Chris R., my wife had a similar situation with the birth of our son. The midwives in attendance handled the situation professionally, and we had a great home birth experience. Just FYI. Current statistics show that positive birth outcomes in the US are substantially higher for home births vs. hospital deliveries. Chris R., my wife had a similar situation with the birth of our son. The midwives in attendance handled the situation professionally, and we had a great home birth experience.

]]> By: Yuk Tyron http://www.adonisindex.com/naturalistic-fallacy-and-how-to-find-experts/#comment-937 Yuk Tyron Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:13:03 +0000 http://www.adonisindex.com/?p=467#comment-937 Hello i just got a alert from my firewall when i opened your site do you know why this occured? Could it be from your advertising or something? Thanks, really strange i pray it was harmless? Hello i just got a alert from my firewall when i opened your site do you know why this occured? Could it be from your advertising or something? Thanks, really strange i pray it was harmless?

]]> By: Chris R http://www.adonisindex.com/naturalistic-fallacy-and-how-to-find-experts/#comment-740 Chris R Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:55:00 +0000 http://www.adonisindex.com/?p=467#comment-740 Joe, I think the point he was trying to make is that if you choose a so-called "natural" home birth, and there's a complication, the chances of mother/baby survival is probably about the same as some woman who died from giving birth in some some log cabin in the early 1800's. Not good. My wife had a rupture after the otherwise completely normal birth of my son and I watched her turn completely grey right in front of my eyes. The OB (also damn good surgeon) gave her a clotting agent, and was able to stop the bleeding and, in my opinion, "saved her life". If we were in that log cabin 150 years ago, she wouldn't be here. Likewise, if we had elected natural birth at home with a mid-wife (no offense to any midwives out there), I'm pretty certain my son would be motherless today. I'll take modern medicine anyday. But again, we live in a society that gives us choice. The choice is yours to either have a natural home-birth, or not listen to the podcasts! lol! Joe,

I think the point he was trying to make is that if you choose a so-called “natural” home birth, and there’s a complication, the chances of mother/baby survival is probably about the same as some woman who died from giving birth in some some log cabin in the early 1800′s. Not good. My wife had a rupture after the otherwise completely normal birth of my son and I watched her turn completely grey right in front of my eyes. The OB (also damn good surgeon) gave her a clotting agent, and was able to stop the bleeding and, in my opinion, “saved her life”. If we were in that log cabin 150 years ago, she wouldn’t be here. Likewise, if we had elected natural birth at home with a mid-wife (no offense to any midwives out there), I’m pretty certain my son would be motherless today. I’ll take modern medicine anyday. But again, we live in a society that gives us choice. The choice is yours to either have a natural home-birth, or not listen to the podcasts! lol!

]]> By: brad http://www.adonisindex.com/naturalistic-fallacy-and-how-to-find-experts/#comment-674 brad Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:52:37 +0000 http://www.adonisindex.com/?p=467#comment-674 No... but he'd eat "better" meat. Smoking is a vice. People know it's bad... yet still do it. You also have to remember that we do these things "on the fly". They aren't really scripted other than the topic we want to discuss. Just think of it as "2 dudes in a bar shooting the shit" :) ... so ALL of our examples might not be the best in the world... lol No… but he’d eat “better” meat.

Smoking is a vice. People know it’s bad… yet still do it.

You also have to remember that we do these things “on the fly”. They aren’t really scripted other than the topic we want to discuss.

Just think of it as “2 dudes in a bar shooting the shit” :)

… so ALL of our examples might not be the best in the world… lol

]]> By: Didrikk http://www.adonisindex.com/naturalistic-fallacy-and-how-to-find-experts/#comment-665 Didrikk Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:14:42 +0000 http://www.adonisindex.com/?p=467#comment-665 The farmer example (eating all the stuff cuz he knows its okay) isn't really good reasoning tho IMHO, and doesn't always go. Tobacco companies know smoking is bad (and probably knew long time before the rest of the world), but I'm sure a lot of the big bosses of the tobacco companies still smoke. A lot of people willingly do things they know are bad for them. So even if this big farmer would know his cows get bad hormone or med injections, that doesn't mean he would stop eating meat, necessarily. The farmer example (eating all the stuff cuz he knows its okay) isn’t really good reasoning tho IMHO, and doesn’t always go.
Tobacco companies know smoking is bad (and probably knew long time before the rest of the world), but I’m sure a lot of the big bosses of the tobacco companies still smoke.
A lot of people willingly do things they know are bad for them. So even if this big farmer would know his cows get bad hormone or med injections, that doesn’t mean he would stop eating meat, necessarily.

]]> By: Chris http://www.adonisindex.com/naturalistic-fallacy-and-how-to-find-experts/#comment-654 Chris Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:53:58 +0000 http://www.adonisindex.com/?p=467#comment-654 Interesting perspective! Thanks a lot! Chris Interesting perspective! Thanks a lot!

Chris

]]> By: Kris http://www.adonisindex.com/naturalistic-fallacy-and-how-to-find-experts/#comment-652 Kris Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:22:46 +0000 http://www.adonisindex.com/?p=467#comment-652 Thanks for the insight guys, very well done. makes me rethink and question some of the information I have received from some so called "experts" I have been listing to. Thanks for the insight guys, very well done. makes me rethink and question some of the information I have received from some so called “experts” I have been listing to.

]]> By: Joe http://www.adonisindex.com/naturalistic-fallacy-and-how-to-find-experts/#comment-651 Joe Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:39:49 +0000 http://www.adonisindex.com/?p=467#comment-651 "natural birth has a high chance of dying" Holy Jeeves! is that the inversion of "naturalistic-fallacy" ... cure conspiracy - Aids - unlogical argumentation ... Good luck for the next podcast “natural birth has a high chance of dying” Holy Jeeves!

is that the inversion of “naturalistic-fallacy”

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cure conspiracy – Aids – unlogical argumentation

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Good luck for the next podcast

]]> By: Andras http://www.adonisindex.com/naturalistic-fallacy-and-how-to-find-experts/#comment-649 Andras Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:11:51 +0000 http://www.adonisindex.com/?p=467#comment-649 I've been thinking about what I'm grateful for recently, and your pod casts are definetly one of those things Thanks a lost guys, I really appreciate 'em and all your other stuff. I’ve been thinking about what I’m grateful for recently, and your pod casts are definetly one of those things
Thanks a lost guys, I really appreciate ‘em and all your other stuff.

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